Re: George Takei To Marry His Partner

"Steven L."...
> "Star Trek" actor to wed after gay marriage ruling
> Mon May 19, 2008 7:59pm EDT
>
> By Iain Blair
>
> LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Actor George Takei, best known for playing Mr.
> Sulu on "Star Trek," says he plans to wed his longtime partner now that
> the California Supreme Court has overturned a state ban on gay marriage.
>
> Takei, 71, told Reuters on Monday that he and Brad Altman, his 54-year-old
> business manager, are going through the "delicious process" of planning
> their nuptials.
>
> "There's no tradition in terms of same-sex marriage. We are designing and
> shaping our own wedding in our own way, so it's going to be singular and
> unique," added Takei, who first made his wedding plans known on his
> website during the weekend.
>
> Comedian Ellen DeGeneres has also announced plans to marry her girlfriend,
> actress Portia de Rossi. Both celebrities, like gay and lesbian couples
> across the state, said they were moved by last Thursday's California
> Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex marriage.
>
> "As an American, I was delighted that we're getting closer and closer to
> more truly being faithful to the Constitution," said Takei.
>
> Referring there to his boyhood experience as one of thousands of
> Japanese-Americans sent to U.S. internment camps during World War II,
> Takei said he was "keenly mindful of the subtle and not so subtle
> discrimination that the law can impose."
>
> Takei said he and Altman have been together 21 years, since meeting at a
> gay men's running club in Los Angeles, where Altman trained the actor for
> his first marathon.
>
> http://ca.reuters.com/article/entert...18632720080519
>
>
> --
> Steven L.

Yeah, I read this. My husband can't even fathom "Sulu" being gay. For me,
it's a shrug.

Natalie

> "Steven L."...
>> > "Star Trek" actor to wed after gay marriage ruling
>> > Mon May 19, 2008 7:59pm EDT
>> >
>> > By Iain Blair
>> >
>> > LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Actor George Takei, best known for playing Mr.
>> > Sulu on "Star Trek," says he plans to wed his longtime partner now that
>> > the California Supreme Court has overturned a state ban on gay marriage.
>> >
>> > Takei, 71, told Reuters on Monday that he and Brad Altman, his 54-year-old
>> > business manager, are going through the "delicious process" of planning
>> > their nuptials.
>> >
>> > "There's no tradition in terms of same-sex marriage. We are designing and
>> > shaping our own wedding in our own way, so it's going to be singular and
>> > unique," added Takei, who first made his wedding plans known on his
>> > website during the weekend.
>> >
>> > Comedian Ellen DeGeneres has also announced plans to marry her girlfriend,
>> > actress Portia de Rossi. Both celebrities, like gay and lesbian couples
>> > across the state, said they were moved by last Thursday's California
>> > Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex marriage.
>> >
>> > "As an American, I was delighted that we're getting closer and closer to
>> > more truly being faithful to the Constitution," said Takei.
>> >
>> > Referring there to his boyhood experience as one of thousands of
>> > Japanese-Americans sent to U.S. internment camps during World War II,
>> > Takei said he was "keenly mindful of the subtle and not so subtle
>> > discrimination that the law can impose."
>> >
>> > Takei said he and Altman have been together 21 years, since meeting at a
>> > gay men's running club in Los Angeles, where Altman trained the actor for
>> > his first marathon.
>> >
>> > http://ca.reuters.com/article/entert...18632720080519
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Steven L.
>
> Yeah, I read this. My husband can't even fathom "Sulu" being gay. For me,
> it's a shrug.
>
> Natalie
>
>


Sounds pretty Takei to me.

-Al-

"Frank R.A.J. Maloney" ...
> Wickeddoll® wrote:
>> "Steven L."...
>>> "Star Trek" actor to wed after gay marriage ruling
>>> Mon May 19, 2008 7:59pm EDT
>>>
>>> By Iain Blair
>>>
>>> LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Actor George Takei, best known for playing Mr.
>>> Sulu on "Star Trek," says he plans to wed his longtime partner now that
>>> the California Supreme Court has overturned a state ban on gay marriage.
>>>
>>> Takei, 71, told Reuters on Monday that he and Brad Altman, his
>>> 54-year-old business manager, are going through the "delicious process"
>>> of planning their nuptials.
>>>
>>> "There's no tradition in terms of same-sex marriage. We are designing
>>> and shaping our own wedding in our own way, so it's going to be singular
>>> and unique," added Takei, who first made his wedding plans known on his
>>> website during the weekend.
>>>
>>> Comedian Ellen DeGeneres has also announced plans to marry her
>>> girlfriend, actress Portia de Rossi. Both celebrities, like gay and
>>> lesbian couples across the state, said they were moved by last
>>> Thursday's California Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex
>>> marriage.
>>>
>>> "As an American, I was delighted that we're getting closer and closer to
>>> more truly being faithful to the Constitution," said Takei.
>>>
>>> Referring there to his boyhood experience as one of thousands of
>>> Japanese-Americans sent to U.S. internment camps during World War II,
>>> Takei said he was "keenly mindful of the subtle and not so subtle
>>> discrimination that the law can impose."
>>>
>>> Takei said he and Altman have been together 21 years, since meeting at a
>>> gay men's running club in Los Angeles, where Altman trained the actor
>>> for his first marathon.
>>>
>>> http://ca.reuters.com/article/entert...18632720080519
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Steven L.
>>
>> Yeah, I read this. My husband can't even fathom "Sulu" being gay. For
>> me, it's a shrug.
>
> Isn't it "The Naked Time" where Sulu is running around the Enterprise with
> a fencing foil? That's the first time George Takei really set off my
> gaydar.
>
> By the time he "officially" came out (2005?), my reaction and that of most
> gay people I know was "Yeah? Who didn't already know?" Certainly, that
> leather cape he wore in ST IV whilst traipsing around San Francisco ought
> to have sealed the deal for anyone not already on board.
>
> --
> Frank in Seattle

Honestly, I never gave it any thought one way or the other. I knew there
was all manner of gay slash regarding Trek, especially of Spock and Kirk, as
well as Janeway and 7, but none of it ever moved me to any sort of reaction.
I simply don't care what an actor' (or character's) sexual orientation is,
as long as it's consenting *adults*.

Natalie

"Frank R.A.J. Maloney" ...
> Wickeddoll® wrote:
>
> [deletions]
>
>> Honestly, I never gave it any thought one way or the other. I knew there
>> was all manner of gay slash regarding Trek, especially of Spock and Kirk,
>> as well as Janeway and 7, but none of it ever moved me to any sort of
>> reaction. I simply don't care what an actor' (or character's) sexual
>> orientation is, as long as it's consenting *adults*.
>
> Spoken out of an attitude of straight entitlement, as is appropriate. Of
> course, you don't need validation by looking for heterosexual role models,
> but young gay people do and even more so a generation when the closet was
> so much more crowded.
>
> --
> Frank in Seattle

I get what you're saying, but I'm not sure you're getting my meaning. I was
raised in a very gay-positive environment. In fact, to my surprise, I saw my
little-known town listed as one of the 20 most gay-friendly cities in the
*world* (Winter Park, Florida). What I mean is that nobody I grew up with
obsessed over sexual orientation. We knew who was gay, but it didn't impact
our interaction with them, which is amazing for the 50s and 60s in a
southern town. I didn't experience homophobia until I went out on my own,
to other states.

So when I heard about Takei, in retrospect, it made sense (never saw him
with a female escort, etc.), but I wouldn't have given it a thought, had he
not come out.

Natalie

"Anim8rFSK"
> "Wickeddoll®" wrote:
>
>> "Frank R.A.J. Maloney" ...
>> >> "Steven L."...
>> >>> "Star Trek" actor to wed after gay marriage ruling
>> >>> Mon May 19, 2008 7:59pm EDT
>> >>>
>> >>> By Iain Blair
>> >>>
>> >>> LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Actor George Takei, best known for playing
>> >>> Mr.
>> >>> Sulu on "Star Trek," says he plans to wed his longtime partner now
>> >>> that
>> >>> the California Supreme Court has overturned a state ban on gay
>> >>> marriage.
>> >>>
>> >>> Takei, 71, told Reuters on Monday that he and Brad Altman, his
>> >>> 54-year-old business manager, are going through the "delicious
>> >>> process"
>> >>> of planning their nuptials.
>> >>>
>> >>> "There's no tradition in terms of same-sex marriage. We are designing
>> >>> and shaping our own wedding in our own way, so it's going to be
>> >>> singular
>> >>> and unique," added Takei, who first made his wedding plans known on
>> >>> his
>> >>> website during the weekend.
>> >>>
>> >>> Comedian Ellen DeGeneres has also announced plans to marry her
>> >>> girlfriend, actress Portia de Rossi. Both celebrities, like gay and
>> >>> lesbian couples across the state, said they were moved by last
>> >>> Thursday's California Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex
>> >>> marriage.
>> >>>
>> >>> "As an American, I was delighted that we're getting closer and closer
>> >>> to
>> >>> more truly being faithful to the Constitution," said Takei.
>> >>>
>> >>> Referring there to his boyhood experience as one of thousands of
>> >>> Japanese-Americans sent to U.S. internment camps during World War II,
>> >>> Takei said he was "keenly mindful of the subtle and not so subtle
>> >>> discrimination that the law can impose."
>> >>>
>> >>> Takei said he and Altman have been together 21 years, since meeting
>> >>> at a
>> >>> gay men's running club in Los Angeles, where Altman trained the actor
>> >>> for his first marathon.
>> >>>
>> >>> http://ca.reuters.com/article/entert...18632720080519
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Steven L.
>> >>
>> >> Yeah, I read this. My husband can't even fathom "Sulu" being gay. For
>> >> me, it's a shrug.
>> >
>> > Isn't it "The Naked Time" where Sulu is running around the Enterprise
>> > with
>> > a fencing foil? That's the first time George Takei really set off my
>> > gaydar.
>> >
>> > By the time he "officially" came out (2005?), my reaction and that of
>> > most
>> > gay people I know was "Yeah? Who didn't already know?" Certainly, that
>> > leather cape he wore in ST IV whilst traipsing around San Francisco
>> > ought
>> > to have sealed the deal for anyone not already on board.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Frank in Seattle
>>
>> Honestly, I never gave it any thought one way or the other. I knew there
>> was all manner of gay slash regarding Trek, especially of Spock and Kirk,
>> as
>> well as Janeway and 7, but none of it ever moved me to any sort of
>> reaction.
>> I simply don't care what an actor' (or character's) sexual orientation
>> is,
>> as long as it's consenting *adults*.
>>
>> Natalie
>
> It's very dubious that 7 could be considered an adult, given that she
> had an emotional age of about, well, 7.
>

I don't think so. She seemed to have a much more frank, adult personality
than you seem to see.

Natalie

"Frank R.A.J. Maloney" ...
> Wickeddoll® wrote:
>
> [deletions[
>
>> I get what you're saying, but I'm not sure you're getting my meaning. I
>> was raised in a very gay-positive environment. In fact, to my surprise, I
>> saw my little-known town listed as one of the 20 most gay-friendly cities
>> in the *world* (Winter Park, Florida). What I mean is that nobody I
>> grew up with obsessed over sexual orientation. We knew who was gay, but
>> it didn't impact our interaction with them, which is amazing for the 50s
>> and 60s in a southern town. I didn't experience homophobia until I went
>> out on my own, to other states.
>>
>> So when I heard about Takei, in retrospect, it made sense (never saw him
>> with a female escort, etc.), but I wouldn't have given it a thought, had
>> he not come out.
>
> I am amazed to read about your experience of Winter Park, especially given
> that homosexuality was illegal in all 50 states (afaik) until the late 60s
> to mid-70s. In any case, you were a lucky person to escape that particular
> social prejudice.
>
> --
> Frank in Seattle

Being black, I certainly got plenty of that other social prejudice,
though...

Natalie

"Victor Velazquez" ...
> Frank R.A.J. Maloney wrote:
>> Wickeddoll® wrote:
>>
>> [deletions[
>>
>>> I get what you're saying, but I'm not sure you're getting my
>>> meaning. I was raised in a very gay-positive environment. In fact,
>>> to my surprise, I saw my little-known town listed as one of the 20
>>> most gay-friendly cities in the *world* (Winter Park, Florida). What I
>>> mean is that nobody I grew up with obsessed over sexual
>>> orientation. We knew who was gay, but it didn't impact our
>>> interaction with them, which is amazing for the 50s and 60s in a
>>> southern town. I didn't experience homophobia until I went out on
>>> my own, to other states. So when I heard about Takei, in retrospect, it
>>> made sense (never saw
>>> him with a female escort, etc.), but I wouldn't have given it a
>>> thought, had he not come out.
>>
>> I am amazed to read about your experience of Winter Park, especially
>> given that homosexuality was illegal in all 50 states (afaik) until
>> the late 60s to mid-70s. In any case, you were a lucky person to
>> escape that particular social prejudice.
>
> Isn't Winter Park where the circus used to, well, winter? Perhaps that
> explains their unusual level of tolerance for the time?
>
I don't think so - I think that's Winter Garden or Winter Haven, also
Florida cities. I honestly don't know why it's so gay-friendly, but it was
back then, and as far as I know, still is.

Natalie

On Tue, 20 May 2008 11:04:27 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

>In article <1uidnalqaMZmY6_VnZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@posted.isomediai nc>,
> "Frank R.A.J. Maloney" <frajm@blarg.net> wrote:
>
>> Isn't it "The Naked Time" where Sulu is running around the Enterprise
>> with a fencing foil? That's the first time George Takei really set off
>> my gaydar.
>
>Even with his "fair maiden" line?

*shrug*

He's a guy. He didn't set off my gaydar ever. I think this is the
first I've known he was gay.

I didn't have any "blips" on my radar either, but then again I don't
turn on my radar unless someone flies into my "airspace", which he
didn't. Even then, I wouldn't fire. I'd just fly the "other way".


--
recall

"Frank R.A.J. Maloney" ...
> Wickeddoll® wrote:
>> "Anim8rFSK"
>
> [deletions]
>
>>> It's very dubious that 7 could be considered an adult, given that she
>>> had an emotional age of about, well, 7.
>>>
>>
>> I don't think so. She seemed to have a much more frank, adult
>> personality than you seem to see.
>
> And here I thought I was the Frank one around here.
>
> --
> Frank in Seattle

OK, you seem to be pretty cool, but you have this coming:

*fwap*

:-P

Natalie
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